Posted by: Keri | May 13, 2008

Self Righteous BIL

I’m going to have to get approval for this post.  But I figured I’d write it first and then ask C if I can post it.  She’ll have a much harder time denying me once she knows I spent good, quality time on it.

So…it’s no secret.  I love Jesus.  In no way do I belong to a religion or even practice anything that looks like it would be part of a religion but I do believe all the things Christianity teaches about the life & death of Jesus and I do my best to live in thanks.  Cristy too, actually.

We live in the biggest Mormon driven State in America.  You can’t have any idea what that’s like unless you live here too.  Some of them are super crazy.  You can tell the minute they open their mouths.  But most of them just live their lives like the rest of us and save their judgements ’til Sunday.  (most of them)  Because I’m not Mormon, I’m pretty much a black sheep.  Because I’m a big lesbian, that makes me black sheep twins or something.  Luckily for me, we live in one of the bluest cities in America - we’re just surrounded by deep, blood red.

So back to Jesus.  C’s family totally knows we attend church.  They know her basic belief system and also know she has no interest in hearing about Mormon, Nephi, Moroni, etc.  She was baptized Mormon by her eldest brother when she was 13 but only because Susie Cardell promised they would live happily ever after once she was dipped.  She dipped and the girl dumped her.  She’s been bitter ever since.  - not against the Mormons, just Susie.  She eventually asked to be ex-communicated but they still count her to keep their numbers up. 

Anyway, she has this one brother who thinks he became her father once her father died.  He has about 8 kids and lives in the mountains.  We only see him during Christmas and even then it’s touch and go.  Lately, there has been this “back and forth” through email trying to convert her.  He always sends these little Mormon messages but then his friend started emailing Cristy and now one of his sons (who is on a Mormon mission) is emailing her.  And they’re these awful messages that say how sad they are that she’s “lost” and that it’s such a shame that we all won’t be together when we die.  It makes me CRAZY! 

I’m all for standing up for what you believe in.  I stand up for myself all the time.  But I also don’t rub unwanted Jesus songs in other people’s ears.  I wouldn’t dream of talking Jesus with my Jewish friends.  I wouldn’t tell a Mormon that their religion is totally hokie with a giant whack job on top.  It’s disrespectful.  It’s inappropriate.  We’re around this crap every day of the week - it’s not fair that we have a family member pushing it on us too.

I don’t think Cristy knows what to do about it.  She’s tried nicely asking him to stop trying.  She’s tried telling him that her relationship with God is just fine.  She’s tried telling him that all the items that Mormons think they have to “check off” before they get to heaven were “checked off” by Jesus while he spent a few days NAILED TO A CROSS! and that they’re really just wasting their time.  (this one didn’t work that well) 

So what now?  What can we do?  What would you do?  I mean, this is her oldest brother.  He’s the parent to her many nephews & nieces.  We have get to see him once a year when he introduces me as “Cristy’s friend”.  I’d hate to make these visits any more uncomfortable but sheesh!  Stop with the self righteousness!

Responses

It sucks and I hate that you have to deal with any kind of ignorance like this. It makes me nauseous to know that you and Cristy are bring treated this way by anyone, let alone a FAMILY member.
I am a religion teacher in a Catholic school. My relationship with Jesus is not a healthy one mostly because I am angry with him…BUT…
What I know is that the person that he reportedly was while he was here is not the same person who would abandon anyone who loves him. However, I don’t think that you are going to convince your BIL of this fact. For some, the change of heart will never come. I don’t know how you can deal with it so that you and your children will not have to endure that hatred from within your family. My visits would be scarce, if at all. I have a low tolerance for people as it is and if they are causing me pain, then I would be reluctant to have them in my life. I know this situation is different because of the nieces and nephews involved and this is what makes it hard. I wish I had an answer. All I really have for you is my support. I wish I could do more for you.

I’m right here livin it with ya sister. I just don’t have an answer. If she’s tried to say STOP and that’s not doing it. I guess she continues to bite her lip and ignore what she can. You only see them once a year……that’s better than every Sunday right.
Maybe if they did see you more it would stop some of the insanity !

You just wait. Those kids will babtize you both when you die. To S~A~V~E your souls. ;)

I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this nonsense but I’m with KJ, at least the visits are infrequent. If it were me I’d be rude and direct and they would surely get the message. I would say the more diplomatic approach may be to ignore the emails at this point. Maybe that message will be heard more clearly and she doesn’t risk saying something that could make things worse the once per year that you do see them. Good luck, meditate and focus on GROWING follicles! ; )

my mom was born and raised mormon (in utah) and left the church when she was 16. it sounds like she and cristy feel the same way about mormonism. i wasn’t around when her older brother stopped talking to her, nor do i really remember when my cousin (who was on a mission) was sending her letters much like the emails cristy is getting, but i’ve heard many stories and i see it going on still. my mom is ALSO still counted as a mormon even tho she has asked to be removed from the membership lists. my mom just ignores all the calls and messages from the local ward about her membership, and she has somehow gotten to an agreement with my uncle that is basically a “i’ll believe my beliefs and you believe yours, no need to convert each other” agreement. it is a VERY rough agreement and there are still very awkward moments filled with tension. i think the best thing cristy can do is just keep saying “look i don’t believe what you believe, so please leave me alone” and/or ignore them when its the best.
i’ll keep you guys in my prayers. and good luck to YOU!!!

I would start sending him Lesbian erotica and trying to convert him to Lesbianism. He’s rude, and it’s not okay to keep pushing after Cristy has said..”hey, back off.”

I would send him an email from another account that says:

Dude,

You are totally pissing me off.
Sincerely,
Jesus

I think jbeeky has the right idea ;-)
I understand what you guys are feeling. I rarely see my siblings (5 plus 2 stepsiblings) but thats mostly because we just live in different worlds.
I do have one sister who is exceptionally eccentric with her church. While they aren’t Mormon they are very similar in the “we must save peoples souls” but not in a “regualr” way. It’s more of a “you don’t love god the way I do so obviously your wrong.”
I thankfully don’t have to deal with continual emails and the rare times I see her, her husband and kids we don’t discuss church.
However, we had done some emailing some time ago and I had mentioned to her that some day when I’m older and if my partner were able to support us financially, I’d like to foster medically fragile infants. She replied that a) our dad would freak out and b) she and her husband believed that a home should include both a mother and a father.
Needless to say we don’t email anymore.
I’d say keep doing what you’re doing and/or as b said send them some porn. :oD
Package headed your way tomorrow!

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